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obama says he wants to protect the middle class. come tax time in april those families could owe more. this year. will anything be done to stop this from happening, a new story. let's go to diane macedo at the new york stock exchange, facebook higher why? >> that's right, stuart, so the fiscal cliff concerns continue. here at the nyse, spirits are high. one of the traders gave me the snazzy glasses and one of the reasons could be facebook. and bmo capital upgraded facebook from underperform to outperform and raised its price target to $32, up from $15. and steeple nicholas raised the price market to $31 up from $26 and looking at facebook shares up 2% this morning and seems like it could be a happy new year for facebook and either way, stuart get these on here, a happy new year to you. stuart: they look pretty good, got to say. >> match the dress. stuart: i heard a comment from the gentleman to your left. >> the gentleman who gave me the glasses, very happy with his donation here. stuart: is he selling those? >> no, free of charge, actually. >> hey, diane, thank you for being here. >>
into the eleventh hour. it's that president obama has retreated on his hard line on taxes. obama may think his conciliatory approach has helped avoid economic chaos. instead, he is courting it." i want to go right to jimmy williams because you have been a senate staffer. you understand how this thing works. why would the white house even bother to increase from 250,000 to 400,000. they don't really have to. they're winning this fives fight. >> the only people that actually care whether or not the threshold is 250,000 to 400,000 are these people that are going to vote on it. nobody else really cares. all they really care is that you get a deal. these people are sitting at ground zero. these snores, these liberals. i'm a liberal. i don't care what the thereby hold is. i don't give a damn if it's a million. i just want them to get a deal or go over the cliff, but somebody just make up your mind up on capitol hill. that's what the american people would like to hear. here's the bottom line. even if they do get a deal at 450,000 or 500,000 or whatever that number is, barack obama will sign into law
-term that the republicans can win if he gets his way, if he passes the obama tax cuts, if we go off the cliff and the economy does slide into recession. if we do get downgraded because there's not enough spending. in the long-term, the economy will suffer, but republicans may be able to say we tried to stop this, this is obama's deal, now he owns it. >> but they need to do better with communicating that exact message, really, if you look at what's going on here, obama has been persistent and bullheaded saying, it's my way or no way and i think he can wants to go over the cliff to demonize and at the same time bullying the middle class. >> and in the short-term run, that it is inevitable that the democrats will say you guys, you republicans, you put us offer the cliff because you were defending your rich millionaire friends, it's inevitable they will say that and that's a winning political line in the short-run. and over that, however, and you ask where is the leadership from this president, where is it? >> and here, stuart. >> doesn't he agree with you. >> americans with funny accent. let me
? $1 trillion of obama care taxes begin in january. that's not even part of the fiscal cliff. that's in addition to the fiscal cliff. we're looking at an avalanche of regulations that were drawn up in the first four years of the obama administration, but then conveniently only beginning to be made public after the president's job was secure. his job is secure. now yours may not be, because hundreds of billions of dollars in regulatory costs are hitting the economy. look at what epa and others are doing. >> right. but grover, speaking of magicianship, you appear to be doing that right now. it looks like rates will increase. that technically is not a good thing for you and your pledge. >> it's a very bad thing for the economy, because what they're talking about is some -- allowing the rates to go back up, not just back up. remember, we go back -- the bush tax cuts disappear and you add the obama care tax increases. so they're taking the top rate not to 39.6, but to 43.4 for half of all small business income in the country. and people at high income earners of the united states. add t
the obama care tax that's coming and the tax, the disappearing bush tax increase and this hits primarily as you know, small business owners and people who file subchapter s corporations. >> that's not who is primarily hits, it hits some of those people. >> over half of all the small business income that ends up paying this higher rate, if you do it. and the last time we did this, more than two-thirds of the people who got hit, were actually the subchapter s corporation. i think it would have a very significant effect. the other effect it has is that we're not cutting spending because we're spending too much money. and that sends a very bad signal. if we're not going to do entitlement reform, because every time we talk about it obama says let's raise taxes instead. we're dealing with tens of trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities, in four years obama has done nothing on entitlement reform. nothing for four years. what has he done? chirped about raising taxes on rich people. raising taxes on rich people is what obama talks about instead of doing his job. there are two costs to this.
, instead just voting to reinstate a tax cut, that then it sort of president obama's tax cut so he gets credit for that. >> do you have any sense of what will happen around that table today? who called the meeting if there's an agenda or are they going to sit around and stare at each other until one of them blinks? >> we don't have a sense. i'm sure that we will be getting a sense. this is supposed to take place at 3:00 p.m. at the white house. the vice president, president and four top congressional leaders. we don't know what will be said. i think we will likely hear from some camps afterwards. >> if you are wondering what a trip down the fiscal cliff might mean for your paycheck, for your 401(k), look no further than yesterday's dow. at the opening bell, a dive of more than 1%. investors finding little hope for the fiscal cliff compromise on capitol hill. when word came down two sides might be meeting. reversal of fortune. the dow rebounding for a while before finishing slightly lower. >>> a nation this morning remembering the american general credited with orchestrating one of the m
. let's write a new book. by the way, those are now going to be called the obama tax cuts. i'm calling it first. the obama tax cuts. he's going to write a tax cut bill, send it up to the hill, and they're going to pass it. >> expires on january 2nd. >> do we make them permanent, jimmy? 98% of them will be made permanent? >> i hope not. that is not the job of the government. the government's job is to raise taxes and to lower taxes when our economy needs it. that's what the senate does. john breaux, former senator john breaux from louisiana sat on the floor during the 2001 tax bill and said our job is to raise taxes when they need to be raised and lower them when they need to be lowered. that's the senate and the house's job. >> but, one man's -- is another man's -- if you look at the laugher curve you don't know when to raise and when to lower at this point. >> president obama kept bush's taxes in for two years. >> i know. >> but suddenly, you know, democrats like you love the 98%, and you hate the 2%. it's very weird. >> tell him, joe. >> don't hate the 2%. i'm not a self-loathing hat
, $250,000, a ceiling if you will over which your taxes would go up. $400,000 was the last obama offer that we heard of. $450,000. the new democratic offer that we're hearing of. the gop is seeking to get it up to $550,000 per and um for income. and remember plan b that blew up in the face of house republicans? a million dollars and above and that is the key question as we head into this. what will the house of representatives do if the senate were to reach this deal with joe biden today? >> as the senate convenes we see them gathering on the left-hand side of the screen right now, very quickly is it even physically possible, we have 13 hours to do this. >> reporter: sure. but in the senate in particular that's usually the place where things get clogged up. they can really do anything if they get everybody onboard. unanimous consent, not to bore everybody with procedure but they can basically wave their hands over this thing if no one stands up to object. the house, however, ironically, may be kind of a different story where they normally can jam things through. we'll see what happens
are going to go up next year also. >> maybe. >> taxes. >> president obama has never said anyone of those thing. >> happy new year. thank you very much. thank you very much. appreciate it. the night continues head over to cnbc.com for the latest. happy new year everybody and all of 2012. excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. sounds a little too good to be true sir. i'll believe that when pigs fly. ok, did she seriously just say that? geico. just click away with our free mobile app. [ male announcer ] how could switchgrass in argentina, change engineering in dubai, aluminum production in south africa, and the aerospace industry in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with con
that president obama wants to raise taxes on. >> he was putting it at 400,000 senator, i want to move to the issue of guns. we heard what ray lapierre said earlier. he was singling out one of your colleagues. i want you to listen to part of his interview. >> you could ban all diane fine stein, done whatever you said to. she had insure bean and columbine occurred. >> is the revival of that ban, is that going to pass? >> i think that's a phony piece of legislation. >> so dianne feinstein was brought up i think five times in that interview. do you think this line of attack is going to work for the n perform a, piling on california lawmaker, from that state? pinches i think we have to take up all the issues. they mass killings have to stop and we have to do everything we can. it will include looking at how many bullets do you need in a magazine in a semiautomatic weapon? i don't know, but i'd like all the hunters to come to the table as well as the people who live in cities who do not want guns and want gun controls. we had need a real dialogue, not just a one-sided one. we need to talk a
of wealthier americans. of course, president obama wants to see the bush era tax cuts extended for those making $250,000 or less while letting it raise on those making more than that. that $250,000 figure is up for debate and is up for compromise. i can tell you that republican leaders on the hill fired back saying he was more interested on assigning blame than getting something done and leading while they are trying to hammer out a deal. that is where things stand right now at the white house. clearly watching these developments quite closely. >> kristen welker, thank you. we will be checking back throughout the afternoon, as well. nchlts for more on where negotiations stand and whether a deal can be reached before the deadline we are joined by michigan democratic congressman. thank you for being here today. we are learning that negotiations have hit a major setback over a republican offer that includes entitlement changes. what exactly you hearing? >> i'm hearing just that. i think that the decision by senator mcconnell to bring up chain cpi is not a helpful step. it will effect the benefits
obama wants higher taxes on the wealthy, stimulus spending, limited cuts to entitlements, and speaker boehner wants limited tax increases and keep his job. bob, which -- where do we go from here if a deal isn't hashed out in the next few hours? >> not necessarily in that order. i think the priorities for john boehner may have been turned around. jared is an old jazz fan, as am i, and he knows that miles davis had a song called "so what" and i think that might be the background music right now as all the posturing is going on in public. the simple fact of the matter is that they are setting up the process for working out a deal after they have scared the daylights out of everybody, and it would seem to me that to quote another song, which is "what are you going to be doing new year's eve," i think that we'll be finding that these people are still hard at it and maybe calling congress into session tomorrow night which is a really rotten way to end the year. >> jared, explain for our viewers what it really means to go over the cliff. >> well, first of all, as a former jazz bassist i have
republicans may believe, as steve said that raising taxes on people over 250 is a mistake, president obama ran very clearly on doing exactly that, won 51% of the vote, 332 electoral college votes, we are probably going to get there the question how much crockery do we break along the way? >> ron that's fine. let's be fair here. we have been negotiating this six weeks, since the election. the president, when i talk to my republican sources say, look, the president hasn't put anything serious on the table still on spending cuts, ron. i think that's, you're right urkts bo, both sides have to give a little bit here, i haven't seen much give on the democrats' side of the aisle here. >> the inability to comp prom my keith stone to democrat circumstance todd, why don't you weigh in on this. what is your feelings with what has to be dealt with by not just this congress but 1913th congress, numerology could worry you a little bit. >> stephen hit the nail on the head, talk about the spending cuts, that actually is not even in existence right now you right now you the top line issue has been about tax re
, talking to staffers on the hill, trying to get some movement in this process. now, president obama, taking real will a tough line on that issue of taxes, it's the big sticking point, has been all along and past negotiations, of course president obama has been criticized by democrats who say that he's given in too quickly on the issue of taxes. of course he campaigned on the issue of raising taxes on wealthier americans. so this time he's not backing down. so these negotiations have really been centered, to some extent, on that issue of taxes. the president really using his bully pulpit to try to pressure congress, congressional republicans, making a number of public appearances, include, of course, during that exclusive interview on "meet the press" today when he said that republicans are to blame for this fiscal cliff stalemate. chris? >> kristin welker, thanks to you and thanks to nbc's kelly o'donnell on the hill as well. more ahead this hour as we continue to cover the ongoing negotiations on the hill. why a small deal now would set up a big fight later. more on secretary of state hill
and uncomfortable position of thinking that joe biden is the grownup in the white house. you got a sense from obama he is the sab tier in his own -- saboteur in his own white house. when he said how the republicans have agreed to raising taxes, that was in effect rhetorical poison pill to house republicans. the house republicans want to do is tomorrow when the taxes go all up, that the bush tax cut expire they say that they are voting to cut taxes. they are spinning this to raise taxes. i don't think the republicans should allow themselves to be baited by obama. >> bret: the or thing is talk about the sequester. you will remember of course in debate, in october. the president said this. about the sequester. >> first of all, is sequester is not something that i propose. something that congress is proposed. he will not happen. >> bret: part of the solution for the super committee. that was part of the deal. negotiating now is delay it by a couple of months. which potentially negotiate on fiscal cliff number two, the debt ceiling battle. and throw in dealing with the sequester as well. we're waiting t
to force president obama and the senate democrats to agree on fundamental tax reform. what do you think about that? >> we will get fundamental tax reform i believe as a part of the debt ceiling debate. going over the cliff means that our economy goes in the tank. we've got a very small recovery going on here. it would destroy the recovery, and jon's son is a first lieutenant, going over the cliff means that we start to dismantle the best and finest military in the history of the world at the time we need it the most. so that is unacceptable, that means i've got to vote for something i don't like, raising rates is something i don't like. i think it's a bad idea. but it's going to happen because barack obama insists that it happen. but let me tell you this. he had the courage of his convictions to raise tax rates, i'm going to have the courage of my convictions not to raise the debt ceiling until we reform our nation and stop becoming greece and finally stop getting out of debt. i hope republicans will fight as hard on the debt ceiling as barack obama did on tax rate. uma: you call everyt
of the democrats calling over themselves about what a tragedy it would be to have the bush tax cuts, that they opposed and spent ten years trashing, including obama, that if they lapse that would be the end of the world. we're making progress. democrats are defending the bush tax cuts for 98% of the american people. for 100% of the american people, we'll take that 99%, 98% of movement by the democrats toward the taxpayer position. >> get to the point, grover. i know this argument. >> we don't see it in the established press very often. >> we see you on establishment press pretty often. we spoke on friday afternoon and it was on tv all weekend. the argument that your thoughts don't get out there, all i got were tweets over you being on. >> we are very big on the first amendment at cnn. >> good, look. what we need to do is extend bush era tax cuts for every single american. boehner said let's get that done for 99% americans and he has two points of leverage over the next four years. this fight doesn't end in a week, okay? this is a long-slogging fight. no budget cuts on the table that
some sort of tax reform. he is not the first president to be really bad with this. george bush had a republican congress and he was quite terrible. it was basically his way or the highway. with obama, he has had an attitude of i would just stand back and let the democratic congress do their will. we have this republican congress now, since the 2010 election, he has not done much to reach out or work with them. dagen: is that kind of attitude, how will that get in the way of getting anything done, particularly today? >> well, yeah, obviously, if people are trying to vote on a deal that includes a tax increase, they should just keep the rates down for people in the rest of the brackets and let obama have his, you know, you do not have to vote for a tax increase. it happens with or without you. you do not have to vote for a tax increase in that way. obama has something to worry about here, by the way. the republicans could even lose the next election because of this. he will have to live with this in the history books. dagen: reelection or legacy? great to speak with you, david. happy
to be to make sure that taxes on middle class families do thought go up that would hurt our economy badly. we can get that done. >> president obama called for immediate action, but there was that vote in the senate tonight. >> we are going to come in at 11:00 a.m. tomorrow morning, and we will have further announcements perhaps at 11:00 in the morning. i certainly hope so. >> mitch mcconnell frustrated with the lack of progress called vice president biden in for help. biden is now said to be playing a direct role. >> there is no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. the sticking point appears to be a willingness or interest or want to close the deal. >> drastic spending cuts will go into affect and taxes go up for everyone. the tax impact for the average american family is more than $3400. senate leaders continue to work on the stop gap bill. the sticking points remain. >> there is still significant distance between the two sides. negotiations continue. >> negotiations will continue through the night. now with just hours to go until the deadline. abc news, washington. >>> as
president obama. but we're also -- we sort of said tonight is the deadline and that's true because a lot of the tax cuts expire at midnight. the sense we're getting from a lot of sources and from members of congress is that perhaps tonight isn't a hard and fast deadline. mitch mcconnell and the vice president are negotiating in earnest to find a deal. but it's sort of difficult to see how exactly that may come to be by midnight and have votes in the senate and house. the thought is that going over the cliff gives cover for some democrats and certainly some republicans. there will be a lot more pressure after the cliff comes to be to put a solution in place. even after midnight were to come and go, we would see them wo working towards an agreement, e we would expect. >> politicking around a cliff that was always meant to be sort of the suicide that would never be. john avalon said, congress is raising to diffuse a time bomb that congress wired. >> reporter: that's true. the thing is, and we will continue to be in this process. now the expectation, obviously, is that dealing with the long-
, as well. i think in obama's proposal, he wasn't moving as much on the dividend tax as a compromise but, you know, that never settled at the end of the day. >> all right. enjoy that 4.2% payroll tax rate while it lasts. >> absolutely. >>> up next, freedom of speech with the right to bear arms. that's in the spin cycle. >>> amber and marcy and paul started north carolina based footsteps clothing which had a booming christmas themed pajama line. not wanting to be just a seasonal business, they added other holidays and eventually expanded to products that celebrate family life. stop! stop! stop! come back here! humans -- we are beautifully imperfect creatures living in an imperfect world. that's why liberty mutual insurance has your back with great ideas like our optional better car replacement. if your car is totaled, we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. call... and ask one of our insurance experts about it today. hello?! we believe our customers do their best out there in the world, and we do everything we can to be there for them when they need us. [car alarm blaring] ca
a decade. this goes back to tax cuts in 2001 and 2003 that the country couldn't afford. >> mm-hmm. >> they put us into a deficit that has been going on since that time. president obama campaigned in 2008 to keep 98% of the households with those tax cuts that were unaffordable. the republicans, 100% with the tax cuts that are unaffordable. the basic fact is, neither party is getting to the core of the matter, which is that we don't have the revenues needed to run the federal government. nobody is specifying the cuts that would make it possible because those cuts can't be made to the revenues that were set in the bush era. and this is the basic problem. it's been phony for a decade now. >> ed rendell. >> first of all, on the short term, the president did offer chain cpi, which is something his base hates. so he has put something on the table that was significant. now, could he deliver that with his base? >> didn't reid say it's not on the table? >> yes. >> every bipartisan proposal does include those changes. >> understand what we're talking about is a short-term deal. dr. sachs
. polls consistently show strong public support for raising taxes on the mg airs and billionaires obama kept talking about and most americans are more inclined to blame congressional regimes. so do democrats have the advantage right now? >> he does. we've had this national conversation after the past 14 months. to the president's credit he has been very clear and transparent about raising taxes on individuals making a certain income level. the question then becomes, where do the republicans fit into this? i'll remind you and the audience the republicans got re-elected to the majority. they are listening to their constituency as well. the real question is where can we meet in the middle where democrats have a little pain and democrats have a little pain and in the process you have a great compromise and true bipartisanship? >> and we were just talking about this, admiral, with congresswoman lee. i mean, there is this idea that we have just enough that maybe will get done today or tomorrow or in the next week or so, but essentially this is kicking the can down the road. there are still th
's the final sticking point in the final hours of these negotiations. you heard president obama concede this is not a perfect deal. he said he wanted a big deal that dealt with both tax reform and deficit reduction. you also heard him talk about the fact that the new revenues would be hundreds of billions of dollars. what he initially wanted was about $1.6 trillion so this is a compromise on his part, as well. republicans initially coming, raising their offer so they kind of came to the middle on that point. but, again, the one sticking point that remains, the sequester and what negotiators continue to hammer out. vice president biden playing a key role in the negotiations having served more than 30 years in the senate. he knows how these types of negotiations get done. really, better than anyone. he, mitch mcconnell with whom he has a strong relationship, trying to take it to the finish line. >> i guess that's something given how many sticking points we were up against before. thank you so much. >> reporter: thanks. >> any deal from the 11th hour talks will be rushed through both chamb
mitch mcconnell. mcconnell and biden get along much better than mcconnell does with president obama. in the last 24 hours, the administration has given ground on raising threshold for income tax rates and estate tax rates, but also demanded much more in new government spending the republicans are comfortable with. it's that division between spending and taxes that continues to divide both sides, and that is the one thing that may prevent a deal from being achieved in the final hours as we get nearer to the fiscal cliff. >> major garrett, thank you. senator is live on capitol hill. >> thanks for having me. >> if there's a deal today, why would you vote to extend tax cuts if there are no new spending cuts? >> that's the exact thing. the real problem is the spending. if you want to raise taxes -- and the president promised in the campaign he wanted to do that -- it's to pay down on the deficit. there's no evidence of any of that. that's a major sticking point. the democrats are divided on tax rates, on the death tax, on taxes on small business and the republican
. >> the dow industrials had gone up about 90 points when the news of president obama's presentation hit the market. the short-term reaction is a gain for the stock market. whether this pans out over the longer term is another story entirely. rick: tax hikes. i mean this has been anathema to republicans. it seems again this the reports are true that republicans are willing to let the bush tax cuts expire for some people, and the argument has been all along that that is going to hurt small businesses. i'm just wondering your thoughts on that, if there are republican lawmakers in washington who are going to go along with letting tax rates go up on anybody, what is that going to mean? >> if tax rates go up on upper income people, small business will be hurt. it will affect the economy. but there won't be that much impact on the deficit. if you raise taxes on people making more than $250,000 a year the congressional budget office says you bring in to the treasury maybe 82, $85 billion. but we're already talking about spending 60 billion of that for hurricane sandy relief in new jersey and ne
, president obama today called for congress to at least extend middle class tax cuts and unemployment benefits if no fiscal deal is reached. tax hike increase take effect january 1st. >>> the situation in the war-torn country is getting worse by the day. this weekend is proving him right. opposition activists say at least 397 people were killed across syria yesterday alone. if true, the deadliest day yet in almost two years in the civil war. the opizatiposition says more t 200 killed following a battle. >>> new england is getting a heavy dose of snow and freezing temperatures. boston is expected to get up to eight inches and the city's mayor has declared a snow emergency. neighboring rhode island is also getting pounded over a foot of snow has already fallen in some parts of that state. >>> some good news this morning about former president george h.w. bush. we're told he is improving and has been moved out of the intensive care unit of the houston hospital where he was being treated for an elevated fever. the 41st president has been in the hospital for more than a month now. >>> those are you
to prevent massive spending cuts and tax hikes from kicking in january 1st. president obama appeared today on nbc's "meet the press" and said the cuts in spending need to be fairly distributed. >> what i'm not willing to do is to have the entire burden of deficit reduction rest on the shoulders of seniors making students pay a higher student loan rates, ruining our capacity to invest in things like basic research that help our economy grow. >> in news overseas the bodies of the dead are being carried away in syria today. at least 397 people were killed saturday. that is the deadliest day so far in the 21-month long civil war. another 52 died today. the joint u.n. arab league envoy said the situation is rapidly deteriorating but that a solution is still possible. >>> in massachusetts boston's mayor lifted a snow emergency a little earlier today. more than a foot of snow fell on several towns across that state overnight. crews are clearing tons of snow in the gillette stadium now preparing for the patriots/dolphins game this afternoon. >>> keep it here as the clock ticks to the fiscal cliff.
philosophical disagreements here about taxes, about how much the government should be spending. i listened to the gentleman who said president obama won the election so he should get his way, but the republicans say, look, we won the house. i do want to see a deal done. and by the way, i don't want to see taxes go up, ali. you know that. i think it's bad for the economy -- >> but you also generally agree if there was going to be a deal, they're going to go up on some people. >> yeah. look, taxes are probably going to go up on the rich because president obama did -- you know, he went around the country saying if he was re-elected, that's what he would do. but, you know, as i told you many times, even if we don't get a deal here in the next 24 hours, this is not thelma and louise. this is a slope, not a cliff that's going to cause a crash in the economy. i do think it looks bad for the country. it's beneath us to go into this new year not knowing what the tax code is going to look like, what kind of spending cuts will go in. this is politics at its very lowest. >> let's talk about a week ago
's your ask of obama. he's told you what taxes he wants to raise. >> i've got a whole list of them. i mean, certainly starting with chain cpi, but the age, the copay, means testing. >> he's agreed to that. >> betting on competitive situation in between medicare manage and deeper service without any cap i mean it adds up to about a trillion dollars. and when you have a situation where americans are paying one-third of the cost of medicare, i don't think people realize that, but literally people are paying one-third of the cost of medicare, we have 20 million more americans coming on medicare over the next decade, i mean it's a time bomb. >> i agree with you it's a time bomb. but remember that the -- the standing document for republican boldness is the ryan budget. you get credit for that. he did not have ten-year savings on medicare and social security. >> and i do. i think we obviously need to be much bolder than the budget you're talking about. because otherwise as you mentioned, if you're going to protect everybody that's 55 and older, there are no savings over the next ten years. >> tha
obama continued his public campaign to pressure congress. >> if congress doesn't act, then everybody's taxes go up. and for the average family that could mean a loss of $2,000 in income and the whole economy could slow down at a time went economy's actually starting to pick up. >> reporter: he, again, called on lawmakers to strike a deal or hold a vote on his plan, which would raise tax rates on wealthy americans, a major sticking point for republicans. >> the way they're behaving is that their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. that seems to be their only overriding, unifying theme. >> reporter: after the interview, republican leaders accused the president of assigning blame instead of leading. >> when they say leadership falls on you, mr. president, you don't have a role here in breaking this impasse? you have had a tough go with congress. >> david, at a certain point, if folks can't say yes to good offers, then i also have an obligation to the american people to make sure that the entire burden of deficit reduction doesn't fall
that it appears little was done to extend the 2010 payroll tax cuts, put in place by president obama two years ago in order to boost the economy. so what does it mean to your wallet? here is how much less you'll bring home if it expires. paychecks shrink $50 a month for those earning $30,000 a year. it shrinks $83 a month for those earning $50,000 a year. and $167 a month for those earning $100,000 a year. now, let's switch to the fiscal cliff. and what that is going to cost you. without a deal, you'll be paying lots more in tachxes. say you're single and working hard, you don't have kids, you earn $80,000 a year. if it does not go into effect, you'll pay an additional $3,000 more than what you already pay in taxes. the middle class families will get hit harder, two kids, both parents work. together you earn $80,000 a year. guess what, if there is no deal, you would owe $6,000 more in taxes next year. with so many variables, the question is how is wall street reacting? the stock market dipped every day last week. question is, what is next? alison kosik is there for us at the new york stock exchang
may end up compromising? >> well, the level at which taxes will rise above where they are right now, so obama's insistence has been, if you make over $250,000 a year, on the income over 250 you pay a little more in the new rates he's proposing. now, he's been willing -- it's been reported that he's gone as high as 400,000 in the negotiations with boehner. so that's a place for agreement. the other place is the estate tax. the estate tax is scheduled to rise by quite a bit at the stroke of midnight tomorrow night. republicans want to keep it low, democrats want it to go up a little bit. there's room for compromise there. and so, you know, it's not just marginal rates that are going up, there's a series of taxes that they're going to change. the thing that could not be settled today was this change cpi. essentially a benefit cut for social security recipients. that led to a breakdown in negotiations today, because republicans wanted those benefit cuts to social security. and democrats said no way. and that was the sticking point and that's when this thing moved from the senate over to
little common ground on tax increases and cuts from entitlements. president obama and speaker boehner met one on one. nothing happened. the speaker offered plan "b," never got enough support within his own party. here we are all over again. do we have tom coburn? joining us now from capitol hill, republican senator from oklahoma, senator tom coburn. senator, thanks for being with us. >> you're welcome. >> so, why, first of all, does this deadline tonight matter? and i heard you make comments yesterday out on the streets of washington to a reporter that you think we're going to go over the cliff? >> i do. >> okay. >> i do. let me take issue with a couple of things you said. >> okay. >> number one is we haven't cut the first penny yet from the federal government, and it's important people know that. what happened in that agreement is $1 trillion in increased expenditures didn't happen. >> okay. >> all right? and now that we're down to the hard work of actually trimming some of the waste out of the federal government, nobody wants to do that. and so, we're in trouble because we have a set of
for the tax code in a continuing series on what president obama and congress should tackle in the next four years today. the "new york times" lead editorial is why the economy needs tax reform. that editorial today in the "new york times" if you want to check it out. we'll go now to linda from indiana this morning on the independent line. caller: good morning. afe couple points to make. i can't understand why a handful of bureaucrats are able to control all the american citizens. i think there ought to be term limits. and if they don't do their job, instead of electing people why don't we throw them all out and appoint somebody and when they don't do their job they're the ones who get the pink slip. i just don't understand the way this economy is going. the e.p.a. is regulating and pushing through cutting down on energy, the poor coal miners, because they want that clean energy. we've got a plant right here not just a few miles from me. they burn clean coal. if i was in there, they would probably have me assassinated in a week because i would have a line item veto every bit of pork barrel s
, there was movement on the income level they're willing to protect from tax hikes and other levels. mr. obama, on an interview on "meet the press" was cautiously opt missic. >> i'm confident that one of two things will happen when it comes to the fiscal cliff. one, we'll see an agreement within the next 48 hours in which case middle class taxes will not go up. if that doesn't happen, then democrats in the senate will put a bill on the floor of the senate and republican also have to decide if they're going to block it. >> biden and mcconnell are said to be only about $100,000 apart on where the bush era tax cuts would expire with the republican pushing for $550,000 a year. democrats offering a 450,000. biden stowed have given up his push to raise the estate tax. democrats are trying to delay spending cuts until 2015 and republicans are demanding more spending cuts to offset extended unemployment benefits and farm subsidies. lot of ground to make up. but mcconnell says his decision to reach out to biden was a good one. >> the vice president and i worked together on solutions before and i believ
obama went on "meet the press" to call out mcconnell and house speaker john boehner over tax hikes. >> i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to know that taxes should go up as part of an overall deficit reduction. >> a health scare for hillary clinton. new details as the secretary of state undergoes treatment for a blood clot in a new york hospital. >>> ringing in the new year. from sydney to new york city. the world turns the page to 2013. good day. i'm chris live in washington in for andrea today. deal or no deal? as vice president joe biden and senate republican leader mitch mcconnell continue negotiations, we just have learned that president obama will speak about the fiscal cliff at 1:30 p.m. eastern time. with all that happening, let's get right to our daily fix. nbc's kelly o'donnell on capitol hill, nbc's kristen welker at the white house, and jonathan capehart, washington post editorial writer and my colleague and an msnbc contributor. okay, kelly. the action is on the hill where it's been for the last few days. let's start with you. thi
. but with pessimism running high, the vice presidents go involved in negotiations. president obama says the inaction of any deal is the result of republican resistance. >> they say their biggest priority is to deal with the deficit in the biggest way. but their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. at some point, i think what's important is that they listen to the american people. >> joining me now, congressman chris von holland of maryland. good evening. it is a good sign that chained cpi is off the table. the senate will be back tomorrow at 11:00. how high is your optimism or pessimism at this moment? >> well, it was a very bad sign when senator mcconnell put this social security change on the table, as part of a small deal, that was obviously something that could have totally thrown a monkey wrench into the process. so the fact that they backed off that is obviously good news. but as senator reid said, there are lots of obstacles still to go. and the fundamental issue remains what the president just said in that clip. both today and for the last
with the $400,000, but president obama is smart in this case. he's going to get the tax threshold that he wants from republicans, and instead of giving them the cuts he had already promised boehner in the talks before, upwards of $1 trillion in social security and medicare, he can come back around and do that during the debt limit negotiations so he's essentially going to win out. remains to be seen whether or not that holds true and whether or not we get to your broader point, the country wants to go through another one of these in just a few months. >> luke russert, thank you. mike viqueira, kristin welker. help new year. >> happy new year. >>> when we come back, the latest on secretary of state hillary clinton's condition. we just learned doctors found that blood clot in the space between her brain and the skull, behind her right ear. doctors say it did not result in a stroke but nbc news' robert bazell will be here with us. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. [ male announcer ] how can power consumption in china, impact wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain,
with obama care. that's how the senate has done on a bipartisan basis, tax bills for i think the last 30 years. they deem this stuff -- they voted. they go home and say, look what we accomplished. nobody knows what's in the bill. none of the details are clear. there have been no hearings, no mark ups no amendments. this is as bad as the original obama passing a $780 billion stimulus that nobody had read. or nancy pelosi saying you have to pass the bill to know what's in it. i don't think any republican ought to be touching this stuff. >> mr. speaker, hold on for a second. alley vels i velshi is with us. >> speaker, sorry to bother you while you're on vacation. listen, you called this an artificial creation of washington. you have actually suggested the many things that make up the fiscal cliff be divided up and tackles separately. i want you to listen to what president obama said earlier today and get your comment on it. let's listen to this. >> we're going to solve this problem instead in several steps. >> speaker gingrich, do you think this is the way to do it? we're at an impasse. are
. >> regardless of partisan differences, our top priority has to be to make sure that taxes on middle class families do not go up, that would hurt our economy badly. we can get that done. >> reporter: president obama called for immediate action, but there was no vote in the senate. >> we're going to come in at 11:00 a.m. tomorrow morning and we'll have further announcements perhaps at 11:00 in the morning. i certainly hope so. >> reporter: minority leader mitch mcconnell called vice president biden in for help. biden is now said to be playing a direct role. >> there's no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. the sticking point appears to be a willingness and interest or frankly the courage to close the deal. >> reporter: if congress doesn't act soon, drastic spending cuts will go into effect and taxes go up for everyone. senate leaders continue to work on the stop gap bill, but sticking points remain. >> there's still significant difference between the two sides, but negotiations continue. >> reporter: reid said negotiation also continue through the night, with just hours
do know. in just four days, taxes will go up on millions. and millions more will have their vital unemployment benefits run out. that's why president obama organized the meeting with vice president biden, speaker boehner, nancy pelosi and senators reid and mcconnell. he urged them to extend jobless benefits. we can deal with cuts to defense and domestic programs later. but let's take care of the middle and working class right now. give them assurance right now. joining me is congressman chief ellison. he's co-chair of the progressive caucus and melissa harris perry, host of the melissa harris perry show here on msnbc. thank you both for coming on the show. >> thank you, al. >> congressman, let me go to you first, this deal comes down to taxing the rich. how can they not realize this is what the country wants? >> i don't think that the republican leadership cares what the country wants. i think they care about what their biggest donors want and their big donors want to reorganize america so that -- because they believe that the rich don't have enough money and the poor have too muc
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